Thursday, December 11, 2008

Bush on Evolution

Charles LGF Johnson has linked to Bush's comment on Nightline regards his views on religion, linking to a site suggesting it's causing 'an uproar'. Watch the You Tube clip at this site and just past the smarmy "does God talk to you" question it appears around 2:10:
"Is it literally true, the Bible?" Bush - "Probably not. No, I'm not a literalist".
Bush goes on to say "you can have both" as to evolution existing with God. I think he's right.

Johnson has been having lots of fun of late bashing creationists but he left no comment on this one. He didn't have to--the post says speaks for itself. Chances are he's filled with glee that the creationist hero has popped a sacred balloon.

But the rub is that while Bush may not be a literalist or young earth creationist he's still a creationist (and Christian). He said he leans on the Bible for his daily life, quite similar to what he said going in during 2000. It's true he might have caught some flack had he opened up that much but let's not forget he's a politician.

But his views aren't insane. Genesis itself was prescient in the timeline, starting with darkness (nothing), going to light (Big Bang), to unformed earth, then to formed earth, life-plants, animals and man, and all without any meaningful science whatsoever. Presuming the days aren't taken literally--and recall there wasn't a 24 hour day until the solar system was formed--then micro and even macro evolution can exist within that framework. This is what the Catholic Church seems to believe now, and it's where I come down on the issue as well.

The crux is what caused everything. As the president said, he believes it would have taken a God/Creator to bring everything into existence, which makes him a creationist in the root sense, ie, in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Most hard core evolutionists and scientists won't go there without proof, perhaps Charles being one of them, but in the big picture it takes a true article of faith to believe that life just "popped in there" from nothing one day, then immediately learned how to replicate itself. This is the core of what Christians do not want taught in schools without 'proof'.


Debbie said...

This is what I have always said and always believed ... science does not have to be in contradiction to the Bible. I believe the Bible is completely true and I also believe in scientific discovery and facts.

The Genesis story of creation says, "The earth BECAME void ..." That's the accurate Hebrew translation. Meaning there was something there before God created the earth as we know it. The earth could be billions of years old.

And the timing, seven days, doesn't necessarily mean seven earth days as we know them... This could have been seven ages, or seven segments of God's time. Yes we count seven days in a week, and we rest on the seventh day, or reserve that day for devotion to God.

Bush is always honest and the left loves to use that against him.

Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth

A.C. McCloud said...

I think a lot of lefties are going to miss flogging him. They will realize how empty their lives really are.

Anonymous said...

I struggle with my faith every day. Part of the reason for this is that science creates far more questions than answers. Like you and Debbie, I think there is room for both my Christian belief, and scientific evidence. I do not believe in the literal interpretations because of the historiography associated with the compilation of the Bible; it is troublesome that we do not know the authors of the various books and chapters of the Old Testament. We know that at one point, the ancient stories followed an oral tradition, and that like the Iliad and the Odyssey, many years passed before the development of writing allowed scribes to record these stories in written form. We also suspect the likelihood that scribes changed these stories over time to provide logical consistency, but even today, we ask poignant questions for which there are no answers.

Our modern view into space overwhelms me. It causes me to wonder about the arrogance of human kind, even to suggest that God, capable of creating all of space, would deign to create human life only here, on earth. And of course, in order to believe, to embrace, to understand, we always seek the authority of origination. Who created God?

So . . . my struggle continues.

A.C. McCloud said...

So . . . my struggle continues.

Yep. Looking at all the galaxies in any particular field of view they point the Hubble is particularly humbling and mind-blowing.

But until one of those scientists can conclusively tell us what came before the big bang, IOW, what exists outside temporal reality--I'll stick with God. He makes the most sense.