Thursday, August 26, 2010

Not a Muslim!

So badly does the left want to bash those on the 'willfully ignorant' right who believe Obama isn't a Christian that HuffPo has now forgotten about dangerous domestic terrorists and is now publishing apologias for Christianity. Of course in typical Huffer fashion the writer goes completely off the rails at the end of his piece:
Jesus himself was not a Christian. Perhaps the most overlooked fact by religious illiterates is that Jesus was a Jew, and he never referred to his followers as "Christians."

Jesus referred to his followers as disciples. Only decades later in Antioch was the term "Christian" used of Jesus followers, and it was a derisive term coined by detractors.

So will someone remind me again why we're getting so worked up about whether or not Obama is a Christian, when Jesus himself wasn't?
Might those be the most inane string of words ever typed in English?

Jesus called himself the Messiah, which the Jewish Pharisees rejected. So while Jesus might have technically been a Jew, he was also a heretic, and those who believed were also heretics. Ergo, anyone who believed in Christ back then--and now--is called a Christian, not a Jew. It's hard to believe someone would actually use such an argument to defend anything.

But it's interesting to see Huffpo now making a robust defense of a president's religious views after trying to convince us Bush was either a fake Christian or a nutjob extremist just a few years ago. They were skeptics then, and perhaps with good reason--reverend Wright once stated that politicians have to do what they do, and preachers do what they do. So maybe they could get Mr. Staub to come back and tackle the meaning of this when he's next in the mood to lecture willful idiots:
"The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There's the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven't embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they're going to hell."

Obama doesn't believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell.

But he's not sure if he'll be going to heaven, either.

"I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die," he says. "When I tuck in my daughters at night, and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."
Not to be overly critical of the man's beliefs (we are all sinners) but that pretty much sounds like the same god his agnostic mother worshiped. If Obama claimed to be a Muslim, yet declared public unbelief in the Prophet's teachings, would he still be vigorously defended as a Muslim by folks like Mr. Staub, the press, or the Muslim Ummah?

4 comments:

Debbie said...

"the most inane string of words ever typed in English" absolutely true.

Makes no sense at all.

He is not a true Christian, can't be, as you have pointed out he doesn't believe in Christian doctrine. Even true Muslims believe in a Hell don't they? Just asking.

Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com

Mustang said...

Mr. Obama is an attorney and as such, trained in the use of words and their various meanings. He knows semantics better than most. When he says he is a Christian because he attended the Trinity United Church of Christ, one automatically assumes that he abides by the dogma associated with that particular denomination. I think it is an erroneous assumption, because when you look closely at the Trinity United Church of Christ, particularly under the ministerial leadership of Jeremiah Wright, you see a clear record of affiliation with the Nation of Islam, a body espousing the black liberation theology of James Cone, himself a dedicated communist. Ordinarily we could argue there is no parallel between Christianity and communist ideology, just as there is no concrete tie between Islam and the Nation of Islam. Ergo, if Barack Obama is a Moslem, he is a black Moslem and apostate; no matter what Louis Farrakhan says, Obama is not a messiah. If Barack Obama is a Christian, then he is an adherent of black liberation theology, and apostate.

I personally do not care what Obama believes; I simply believe a presidential candidate ought to be honest with us about his religious beliefs; people have a right to know what to expect from their leader. That Obama is dishonest about his religion speaks volumes to us. I understand why he would prefer to confuse us with semantics: whether a black Moslem or racist acolyte of Jeremiah Wright either would render Obama unelectable.

Thank you for the link, AC.

Semper Fi

A.C. McCloud said...

That Obama is dishonest about his religion speaks volumes to us. I understand why he would prefer to confuse us with semantics: whether a black Moslem or racist acolyte of Jeremiah Wright either would render Obama unelectable.

Or a friend of Bill-- Ayers that is.

But very well put--how can we trust him on almost anything if he'll lie about his faith? Sounds to me like he's an agnostic. Maybe he's planning a teachable moment on all this very soon, assuming he doesn't have to take questions.

A.C. McCloud said...

Debbie, I think it's probably a wink-wink with the left--they knew he had to pretend some faith to get enough bitter clingers to vote for him. Not just bitter clingers, but also most of the black community in Chicago, which is why he attended Wright's church in the first place.

The maddening thing about this is the outrage on the left over anyone even questioning this--they questioned Bush's Christianity constantly.