Monday, April 26, 2010

Clear as a Bell

HuffPo links to Salon, which has a column called "the Party of No...Credibility" by a guy named J.L. Bell. In a nutshell, Bell used Snopes to compile an absolute number of false Bush rumors versus false Obama rumors to determine that
..Our right wing now contains a lot more liars, and a lot more folks who spread lies out of gullibility or wishfulness, than our left wing.
Now, there are a lot of folks spreading disinformation through email and web sites, but is Mr. Bell doing likewise?

After all, he didn't make generalizations, he used hard numbers via Snopes. One of the 87 rumors was about Bill Ayers' relationship with Obama, which they classify as "partly true" (meaning partly false). This was used at the time to berate the comment Palin made about Obama 'palling around' with terrorists.

In Snopes' debunking of the Annenberg Challenge relationship they pointed to another fact-checking site,, which basically called journalist Stanley Kurtz a liar when he postulated that "[Obama] almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers" (the Snopes page won't allow cut/paste).

Snopes believed Factcheck, which said, "to the contrary, Ayers was not involved in the choice" based on the remarks of the president of the Joyce Foundation, a local Chicago charity where Obama also served on the board (some suggest there were ties between the two funds but that's not necessary to make the point here).

Flash forward--we now have New Yorker editor David Remnick's new book about Obama's history that states that yes indeed, Bill Ayers DID make Obama the director of the Annenberg Challenge, exactly what Kurtz and others were saying all along. He even called Obama's characterization between the two as 'disingenuous'. So where is the Snopes update on Remnick's charge? Bell's? And who fact checks the fact checkers?


Debbie said...

You say "who fact checks the fact checkers?", good question. Probably some bloggers who will actually take the time to dig out the true answers somewhere, report, and eventually (if lucky) the truth will come out.

Right Truth

A.C. McCloud said...

Once we set up a site as a 'fact checking site' seems they can almost become bulletproof. After all, few Republicans would consider "Fight the Smears" a legitimate fact checking site, so just wondering.